To nobody's surprise Imperium is not very good with timekeeping and preserving true history. His work was all for nothing. At the same time, he's growing more and more unsure that the Emperor ISN'T a god. That Guilliman was contemplating this during the Great Crusade means that it probably crossed the Emperor's mind too. Context: Shortly after the start of the Indomitus-Crusade, an increasing number of Psykers among the. A tankard is whipped at supersonic speeds, smashing the Silent King's head off his shoulders. ’Even the Mournival say something along these lines, telling Horus that he can't risk fighting anymore because he needs to deal with administrating and managing the Crusade. Guy Haley, Dark Imperium (2017) The rivalry between Russ and the Lion, Russ’ hatred for the Legionbreaker Guilliman, the Lions secrecy v Guillimans more open and rational way of doing things. "Listen to me, Roboute," the light ghost hisses. Now there is only Guilliman left, the only demi god that the emperor decided to rez (whether or not it was Guilliman who originally planned it, or Cawl, or Yvraigne, or whoever it doesn't really matter - if the emperor didn't want it to happen, it wouldn't have). Guilliman is base around rome and if you look at what romans use to wear, robes and lots of robes. His actions didn’t change but the meaning of the Emperor and the Imperium did. But I have reasons to believe otherwise. Dante is sick but has been leading a chapter only, 1000 marines give or take. Horus is the brightest star and you carry your father’s face, but Guilliman’s heart and soul are cast in the Emperor’s image. In the books Guilliman describes the Emperor as not only full of bullshit for his 'oh, I totally need you, you're the bestest', but also describes the Emperor as unsubtle and infinitely cold. Currently Magnus is more potent with the psychic round, but Guilliman's armour's special rules means Guilliman can come back from any death - so tabletop would be interesting. He ascended to sainthood. The Minotaurs can say what they want, if Guilliman wants them to charge into the Cicatrix Maledictum then they'll have to go, regardless of their opinion or whomever they think they report to. The final battle of the war took place here, with Guilliman and Mortarion fighting each other to a standstill amongst the ruins of Iax. But the High Lord with overall responsibility for the Imperium's military and defence was referred to as the Lord Guilliman, even millennia later. But He spoke. Rogal Dorn and Diocletian (the resident Custodes) began to butt head over the issue, so Kaeria the Silent Sister have some thing to say (sign). Whereas Abnett's coverage of the Horus Heresy has got the Emperor's greatest son stuck in the middle of some wheat fields on the. ‘Roboute Guilliman. ‘Does He not speak to you?’ The unbearable radiance enfolded Guilliman, so glaring Mortarion threw. It was to be used as a means of travel and communication, cutting out the two most common uses of psychic powers. Guilliman is best described as disingenuous, unscrupulous, power-hungry, obsessively controlling, and self-deluded. It is good to be reminded that I am a person as well as a. When Guilliman gives and order you have to imagine the fucking god Emperor himself got up of his throne and came and told you the same. Guilliman tried to remember how tall the. Share. You cannot replace him. Did the emperor love his primarch sons? In the indometus era Guilliman is said to have contemplated this upon his meeting with the Emperor. Tech-Priests have levels of machine-enforced autism that normal people simply can't match. 92). ’ ‘He will kill you, my lord. On the face of it, Guilliman has spent every waking moment working. Although in his genius Roboute Guilliman excelled at everything Calgar could imagine, in other ways he was a world away from the idealised figure Calgar had imagined all his life. 17. ’ The raging tempest spoke his name, and it was as the violence a dying sun rains upon its worlds. This bloated, rotten carcass of an empire is driven not by reason and hope, but by fear, hate and ignorance. If Guilliman got his way yes, people would obey him as he would speak for the Emperor, but he wouldn't claim the Emperor was wrong in any way but he could have his "Interpretation" of the Emperor's words essentially treated as gospel. The conversation with Guilliman after he returned is Roboute talking to a semi-ascended deity whose mind and soul are fractured beyond belief. The whole practical/theoretical thing isn't what normal people do, because normal people have feelings making up the difference. I find this hard to believe due to a couple of reasons below. And now Guilliman lives in his greatest fear: a corrupt, superstitious, tyrannical Imperium. You will die, and our father will die, and so will all the others, because you are all to stupid to see the truth. Despite his injuries Dante demands to be taken. There is only survival. ‘I say that you fear too much, and that Roboute Guilliman is a true son of the Emperor,’ said Achallor. In fact that entire section of Roboute Guilliman's fandom page seems to be the entire chapter almost. If all else went wrong, he would be heir to the empire. His Primarchs were weapons, that was all. He could have stood up for Lorgar, made a case. Credits:Rowboat Girlyman art by Adrián Prado: Divina by Rhapsody of FireAnci. Guilliman had it easy compared to Angron, but Angron never tried to push past his circumstances and essentially just gave up once the Emperor gave him the War Hounds. The Lion closes his eyes. The Emperor greeted Guilliman not as a father receives a son, but as a craftsmen who rediscovers a favourite tool that he thought lost. Guilliman was clearly favored, Perturabo would have resented that about as much as he resented Dorn's treatment. Horus will be forced to acknowledge the Emperor again, and Guilliman and the others will not usurp their true master. The line of Custodian guards parted at the center to allow him to stand before the Lion. As you say, Guilliman does spend a lot of time in the Heresy on Imperium. A lot of people believe that the Lion will start a civil war against Guilliman after waking up and seeing what the Imperium has become. Apart from Faffnr, none of the Wolves had risen or shown any deference. Probably Magnus kills him, but Guilliman pops back up and continues to inflict damage until he wins. ‘Confess, preacher,’ said Guilliman. ago. Couple this with him having a hard time. The Lion survived a planet exploding. They were things. However, it means the Emperor doesn't get the same unconditional obedience he gets from Russ, Dorn etc. Guilliman would have made a good Warmaster, he would have been able to handle the burdens placed upon him by Terra much better than Horus did, Guilliman already experienced in running a large administration. Perhaps him hearing the Emperor say “you were my tools” was just what Roboute thought all along, thus the illusion fit the image. The very idea of words seemed ridiculous, the concept of them a grievous harm against the equilibrium of time and being. 'Guilliman. You will not wield it against me. ‘Roboute Guilliman. Within the universe, Guilliman very well may be capable of showing them all a better way (notwithstanding that this "better way" is coming from a man who commits genocide on a Tuesday), which is exactly why out of universe it'll never happen. The sun. Which makes sense, given his particular talents and strengths. 000) the User's Guide for Roboute Guilliman; english isn't my first language; Character Study; Summary. It being Gulliman he had sequestered any and all info on his missing brothers. The very idea of words seemed ridiculous, the concept of them a grievous harm against the equilibrium of time and being. Before Roboute reunited with his real father, the Emperor, he was taken care of by Konor Guilliman, one of the two Consuls of Macragge. injures Nurgle himself implicaton is that while this was a massive, MASSIVE, strain on the Emperor's power, he WILL do it againThis quote is from chapter 3 "Rise of the Primarch" of the 2010 sourcebook The Gathering Storm III: Rise of the Primarch (WHF04, published by Fantasy Flight Games). Guilliman hates this because he knows it’s merely conditional. The -3 AP is disappointing for the Emperor's. A lot of people believe that the Lion will start a civil war against Guilliman after waking up and seeing what the Imperium has become. It is good to be reminded that I am a person as well as a. ‘Let me die knowing what you are,’ Guilliman whispered. And RG is a. That's true, but I thought you were talking mainly pre-heresy, because now it's obvious Guilliman won't like his traitor brothers. But things change and in 40k the Emperor and the Imperium are the same thing. He is less certain whether the same remains true in 40k, but ultimately decides that it does. Meanwhile, the worlds that the Word Bearers were bringing in to the fold of the Imperium were brought in with minimal bloodshed, but it often took them decades to bring a single planet or system in. A test of his loyalty -- assuming his return isn't immediately followed by another private session with the Emperor telling him to build a new Imperium, as you suggested. ‘You remember it,’ continued Guilliman. Blacksheep045 • 5 yr. 15. And while Abbadon handily wins the duel and the battle, ruining the Imperial world and getting his claws on whatever he needed there, Guilliman's strategy and forces will eventually win the war, and renew the world. His words in that matter would be ignored every bit as much as the Ecclesiarchy would ignore him telling them to stop worshipping the Emperor or some suchIn the Regent's Shadow we see Guilliman keeps an obsidian statue bust of Sanguinius in his bedroom, so he definitely misses him quite a bit. If He were alive. The being he had thought of as a father could hide nothing from him. Because the Khan is moved by a strong sense of justice, while Guilliman is very out of touch with his feelings. Trading the thousands Curze did and might kill was not even with the Lions methods. what Guilliman was planning for was the Imperium's survival after the HH, where the powers that were would be broken down into the powers that be. The Emperor greeted Guilliman not as a father receives a son, but as a craftsmen who rediscovers a favourite tool that he thought lost. The Emperor spoke and did not speak. I think there's a difference between channeling into a mind and making something's warp presence of your own image. ”Roboute Guilliman never forgot what caused his adoptive father's death. ‘He is not my father,’ Guilliman said. Templars- Absolutely!It was made pretty clear in the Dark Imperium Novels that Guilliman largely disapproves of the Ecclesiarchy and, in general, the religion created around the Emperor. ‘No matter,’ said Guilliman. And his status as the Emperor's only living, loyal son does come with a lot of clout; but he can't go beating people over the head with it. ‘He speaks to me, brother,’ said Roboute Guilliman. It was the look of the blindly faithful. ‘I must fight him. ‘He is not a god,’ said Guilliman out loud. ’ ‘Failure. shall we say, not the life of the party. LessRight Adeptus Mechanicus • 2 yr. The Emperor did not love His sons. May 10 2022 Advertisement Let’s talk about how Guiliman plans to destroy his father’s Imperium. However, I don't recall any reference being made to the machine spirit. The Emperor did not love His sons. ’ Guilliman looked at the girl’s mutilated body. Like let's say the emperor on the throne is one man and the one possessing women and zapping untold amounts of enemies is a new chaos god who just hasn't found his evil. . He behaved like a prisoner locked in an iron cage who is passed a rasp. Because a) I hate the High Lords, and b) I would rather take a coast to coast trip through Commoragh than even attempt to strike the only loyal son of the Emperor. Business, Economics, and Finance. Crickets_Head • 6 mo. He did not hear them at all. It would more likely just re-form in the warp. [deleted] • 3 yr. ’ ‘Guilliman. Abaddon kills the Custodes. They were things. Kristian1805 • 1 yr. if any chaos or say xenos dude did the same action with the same ease, in the course of a single book, to the center of. My theory is that Malcador and the Emperor were also trying to send a lesson to Guilliman. Perhaps that tipped it. ago IndySoccerFan25 SPOILER [Book Excerpt] [Dark Imperium: Plague War] Guilliman and Mortarion have a chat Guilliman and Mortarion finally come face to face, and have a nice chat after being reunited as long lost brothers. Sectors are fairly large though. " Guilliman steps towards the lithocast phantom, as though he might strike it down or snap its neck. ‘Father gave you His blade, I see. You could argue that Guilliman, Lion and Russ could distract Horus enough for the emperor to make a deadly blow. 'Roboute Guilliman. Guilliman has landed at the heart of the Imperium. He didn't want them to be useless in the aftermath, like some Legions were sure to be, looking at you World Eaters and Night Lords. ‘He speaks to me, brother,’ said Roboute Guilliman. ’ ‘I am not holy,’ said Guilliman. Either way, Lucius winds up imprisoned, indefinitely, until he can be sealed away and abandoned somewhere. ‘I shall depart today, for the Emperor. Guilliman was loyal to the Imperium while believing the Emperor, a man, had died. He may not have the emperor's strength or intelligence, but he does have the charisma and vision to lead humanity back to the golden age. One might say that the promise of another loyal Primarch existing next to Guilliman would be enough, but I argue differently. GameStop Moderna Pfizer Johnson & Johnson AstraZeneca Walgreens Best Buy Novavax SpaceX Tesla. The emperor considers Guilliman his greatest achievement and hope for mankind. In that state, He denies He is cold as Magnus accuses Him of being. The Lion did the same, his whisper full of sorrow. Thiel guns him apart with his reloaded boltgun, two-handed brace, feet anchored. . He brought Guilliman back to life from the vastly aged husk that Nurgle’s Godblight did to him. As any us would be, Guilliman is rightly upset having been lied to and feels used and betrayed. Guilliman glanced at the warrior sharpening the axe. Drach'nyen may be one of these. Guilliman had no illusions. So it actually not out of character. We’re all waiting for the biggest showdown looming over the future of 40K – Roboutte Guilliman versus Lion El’ Jonson. The source of their conflicts was never Guilliman doing something the Lion hated. His dad was a reformer that launched a military campaign in the barbaric region, got betrayed by his best friend and got stabbed to death. Guilliman has very different goals for the Imperium than the Emperor did. Guilliman returns to Ultramar and counter-attacks. Even those Chapter Masters who readily accept him as the wisest among. The Lion chastises Guilliman for keeping secrets, whereas he’s the Secret King of Keeping Secretsville Like, all the Primarchs have a super special Magical Girl™️ power trait they inherited from Biggy Emps: Vulkan is The Boy Who Wasn’t Unalived, Magnus has that good good psycho brainmeats, Guilliman likes to make lists and rules for all his toys, and the. Even Horus laments how he has the lunatics and dregs of the primarchs on his side. Still new to the lore, sorry for my ignorance. Does Guilliman ever say anything directly in the lore about the matter? I get that Tzeentch can and does create entities to confuse and twist the minds of men to subvert the Imperium away from its. Though he knew that openly purging them for no legal reason other than “I ordered you to” would likely start a civil war even bigger and more destructive than the Horus Heresy. Better that we had all burned in the fire of Horus' ambition than lived to see this. So yeah, armywide 1 Ultramarines Strategum per turn for free. The dawn of a new age of supremacy for humanity beckons. He was there to watch the primarch. He's now the Imperium's defender. The vast armies of the Emperor of Earth have conquered the galaxy in a Great Crusade – the myriad alien races have been smashed by the Emperor’s elite warriors and wiped from the face of history. The Emperor's Sword gives him the edge that he may be lacking. If the Emperor Himself stood up, thought Guilliman, came down off His golden throne and proclaimedRoboute Guilliman, the primarch of the Ultramarines, privately referred to Sanguinius as one of “The Dauntless Few,” the four of his brothers that Guilliman trusted most. Lorgar represents faith and devotion to a cause (at first to the Emperor, later to the Gods of Chaos). He's out for smokes, he'll be right back. To give you a sense of how badly screwed up the Imperium is, one of the first things Guilliman did when he returned was request basically a high-level summary of the timeline for the last 10 millennia. That is not to say that the Emperor wasn't always strong. ‘My father is no god. Guilliman had seen the look on the priest’s face too many times on other holy men. Or maybe the Emperor was lying for some reason only he could understand. The being he had thought of as a father could hide nothing from him. To my knowledge, the Lion hasn't had a lot of experience with politics. It's the throwdown you've been waiting for, as Guilliman and Mortarion work out ten thousand years of pent-up resentment in a clash for the ages. Gives a speech about the glory of slaying the enemy, but doesn't actually care, just wants to hold the Warband together. -Guilliman was misguided in thinking the Emperor was dead, and he did plan on making another Empire. Your quote appears to be verbatim from the source (p. Yes if I remember correctly there's a brief passage in the Dark imperium series where he ponders the location of his brothers. An Imperium that is larger, stronger, faithful and united. Option 1: The Emperor told Guilliman what he needed to hear to steel himself for the grim, dark future of the 42nd Millenium - there's no place for softness. ‘He is not a god,’ said Guilliman out loud. Guilliman has tried for over a decade to convince the Imperium and its leaders that the Emperor is not a god, with no success. A Custodian of clear authority strode towards the Throne, with a massive golden hammer in one of his hands and his helm in the other. Even with all the work he managed to do, he'd be deemed another horus by all those who believe in the Emperor as a God and it'll be a civil war the imperium can't afford. I mean, if the chamber militant of the inquisition that are the Grey Knights look to be siding with him, I think pretty much any marine chapter (outside of say, DA and Minotaurs) will. Spoilers ahead: "Necessity overcomes morality. ‘That axe looks sharp enough to me, brother,’ said Guilliman. Cause he had the biggest legion. The Lion wouldn't hate what Guilliman has done, Guilliman would hate what the Lion would do. Yvraine resurrects Guilliman, and then after the shitstorm that follows right after, they have a respectful conversation with one another, and then Yvraine leaves. They were things. The Emperor’s light was blinding, all encompassing, but finally – finally – Guilliman had seen it as a whole. 3. Guilliman reminded Helbrecht of the oaths he had sworn, and how his duty as High Marshal was to all the Emperor's realm rather than just being to his own personal vendettas. Khan: would want to reform his legion and operate as a voidborne force. Out of all the Primarchs, the Emperor directly intervened to make sure that Guilliman is found by Konor, this is said to be the only moment in which the Emperor directly interevne to make sure that Guilliman is found by Konor and not the Illyrian tribes. Guilliman cannot merely say that he fights for the Emperor or in His name. If the Emperor Himself stood up, thought Guilliman, came down off His Golden Throne and proclaimed ‘I am not a god!’ then they would burn Him as a heretic. They are still a part of the Emperor's glorious Angels of Death :) ReplyYou say that the remaining legions were all exemplary, but the problem is many of the traitor legions were also exemplary before the heresy, such as the Luna wolves and the EC, so how do you handle the risk that a exemplary chapter CAN go off the rails. There is a reason why the emperor wanted him to come back first before the lion or any of his other brothers. Chapters are not beholden to anyone. When the Emperor appears to Magnus during the Siege, He projects into Magnus’ mind as a glowing sun-god and they burn through the warp together, moving through billions of years in moments. The viral zephyrs would cling to the planet for a time before finally feasting upon itself and dissipating, transforming a planet of little life to one of absolutely none. Guilliman was a rationalist, Lorgar was a quester after metaphysical truths. Guilliman didn't know what to say. The books are quite enjoyable and brought out some great contradictions between Guilliman and the God-Emperor religion. He did write that the Emperor impresses his abstract thoughts onto people's minds and they interpret that message through their own filter, though. The Emperor, for all his might, is still a human. 1. Dan Abnett put in some excellent irony and foreshadowing in Guilliman's musing in the Unremembered Empire. As a politicians he was ready to fight for reforms that he thought was right, despite the fact that they would also hurt him and in the end he was killed for doing what was right. I think this is a cool scene because you have a human Imperial arguing against the Emperor being a God which is very rare imo. He had hoped for better from the Primarch. Ever since Guilliman came back with the help of Yvraine and Eldrad, people have been asking what his exact stance on working with Xenos is. Ever since Guilliman came back with the help of Yvraine and Eldrad, people have been asking what his exact stance on working with Xenos is. . injures Nurgle himself implicaton is that while this was a massive, MASSIVE, strain on the Emperor's power, he WILL do it again After his resurrection, Roboute Guilliman has gained an audience with his father, the Emperor of Mankind. 3 After his resurrection, Roboute Guilliman has gained an audience with his father, the Emperor of Mankind. Guilliman is going to suffer now that he's back. There was no hope in this world. Mathieu the priest doesn't very much like that but cannot do anything about it because she's a close friend and subordinate to Guilliman. The former worlds of the Realm of Ultramar didn't want to have to give up their independence to Guilliman after 10,000 years of not having him. He was loved, taught and raised with every care and in the expectation of excellence and success. Do we have any information or literature on how pissed…Guilliman is Julius Gaius called Caesar's proxy. Davido400 • 4 yr. As proof, he has the support of the Custodes, including the Emissary Imperators themselves. As soon as it turns sunshine and rainbows it's not 40k anymore. ’. ’ ‘Failure. During Roboute's absence, Konor Guilliman's co-consul, a man name Gallan, had unleashed a coup d'etat against Konor -- a development far from unknown historically, if in this instance a surprise. He may yet serve. ” Emps: “TO SAY THAT I AM SURPRISED IS AN UNDERSTATEMENT. He agreed that he would reveal the project to Guilliman when Guilliman returned, millenia ago. Guilliman literally had an empire. Yes, last crusaders from destroyed Cadia assisted Guilliman when he woke up. There’s a whole lot of Guilliman interacting with characters that are basically props for Guilliman to interact with, some Primaris Space Marine Inceptor™ product placement, and then it sorta just runs out of pages without really ending. Thematically, the shield is a good way to remind him that he's not the scalpel he once was. Saving everyone from the domination of Chaos for. The Emperor may have vocalized that Horus was. At least the "blessing by the militant-apostolic" must be jarring for him. Guilliman's characterization, as well as the subtlty of his realizations about his father, seemed highly inconsistent with their portrayal in Dark Imperium. The Emperor’s plans had failed completely, and suffering was the lot of all men. The very idea of words seemed ridiculous, the concept of them a grievous harm against the equilibrium of time and being. The Emperor was just using bog standard possession, like a daemon sword possessing Fulgrim or End of Empires possessing, well everything from a basic human to a titan. The Emperor of the East Roman Empire who even though he tried could not restore the West. When the Emperor appears to Magnus during the Siege, He projects into Magnus’ mind as a glowing sun-god and they burn through the warp together, moving through billions of years in moments. 0 like Horus. He also knows that pushing too hard will lead to civil war. ’ ‘Disappointment. The Lion needs the reminder. In addition of being tasked of punishing the Thousand Sons, it is (not that) subtly hinted that the Space Wolves were tasked to eliminate the Second and Eleventh Legions. Commander Dante was nearly killed by the Tyranid on Baal, while recovering in what remain of the Blood Angel's Fortress Monastery he receives word that their saviors, The Primarch Roboute Guilliman, the Ultramarines, and a strange new type of Space Marine, had landed. A culture. You cannot replace him. When Guilliman went into stasis he was objectively a loyal servant of the Emperor. Meanwhile, the worlds that the Word Bearers were bringing in to the fold of the Imperium were brought in with minimal bloodshed, but it often took them decades to bring a single planet or system in. ’. ’ The raging tempest spoke his name, and it was as the violence a dying sun rains upon its. 21. ‘But we shall see the truth of it in a second, Sister. Like the other Primarchs, Roboute Guilliman was one of twenty genetically engineered “sons” of the Emperor of Mankind. Dust-Wonderful • 7 mo. Two legends meet each other. I gave everything I had to you, to them. During the formation of Imperium Secundus, Euten advised that Guilliman crown himself Emperor. After venting his initial fury on the Traitor forces arrayed against them, Guilliman took command of the planet’s defence and drove back the invaders with all the strategic brilliance for which he was renowned. ’ The raging tempest spoke his name, and it was as the violence a dying sun rains upon its. Remember that Guilliman was revived on Macragge, far from Terra, and it was on Macragge that he learned about the past ten thousand years. 15 votes, 14 comments. Yeah, but guilliman and his forces are generally enough to deal with it. ’ ‘Betrayer. Colquan glared him. The Emperor may have vocalized that Horus was. We also know that there is a watch-dog (for lack of a better term) to watch Guilliman to ensure he doesn't spread his non-belief in the God Emperor to the normal ranks (the Militant. Guilliman had seen the look on the priest’s face too many times on other holy men. How petty. Lion fought Chaos at Caliban and Sang fought and died on Terra. Big E probably knew where Lion was, and knows where Russ, Corax, Dorn, and Vulkan are. Lion thought Guilliman was trying to become The Emperor 2. The brother-on-brother battles of the Heresy had once seemed the height of madness to. They were the only legion permitted to use the Aquilla. In the new lore the Emperor didn't consider the Primarchs his sons but rather tools to be used and discarded. The Emperor was just using bog standard possession, like a daemon sword possessing Fulgrim or End of Empires possessing, well everything from a basic human to a titan. Plot summary of Gathering Storm I: Fall of Cadia. ‘I say that you fear too much, and that Roboute Guilliman is a true son of the Emperor,’ said Achallor. Man, that's beautiful. This marksbthe beginning ofbthe Plague Wars. The very idea of words seemed ridiculous, the concept of them a grievous harm against the equilibrium of time and being. In the throne room Guilliman saw the Emperor for what he truly was, a desiccated skeleton on the golden throne trapped and resentful. He says He’s just pragmatic, as a single weakness would be exploited by the ruinous. Secondly, when Mortarion almost kills Guilliman, Emperor literally possesses a girl to scatter the Daemons and save his only remaining loyal son. Guilliman, one presumes, heeded the warning. ’ ‘The Night Haunter?’ Sulymanya whispered. ‘I face you at last,. Guilliman gave Calgar back the duty of defending Ultramar because ultra papa smurf is a little busy ruling the imperium. The way the Emperor sort of had to notice Guilliman first, the way you might take a second to notice an ant crawling on you. Practical, the Emperor is not a god. So at the minimum that's one primarch with a similar level of accomplishment as Guilliman before being found again by the Emperor. Despite the Emperor absolutely detesting Roboute Guilliman and wanting his life support cut off, in the Gathering Storm event of 40k canon, Guilliman finally awakens and has the exact same horrified and furious reaction to the bottomless cruelty and stupidity of the 41st millennium Imperium as the text-to-speech Emperor did. 7. 1)Because there is a major difference between building an empire and waging war. Everyone else may have had more actual power, but not as much authority. Guilliman is the echo of the Emperor's Heart and Soul. ’. Guilliman has returned in glory to the Emperor's side. "The Emperor loves us all' lied Roboute Guilliman My last Dark Imperium excerpt was received very well so I wanted to share my other favorite excerpt. By breaking the legion Guilliman wanted to send a message to the other traitor legions that their best could be broken. Others are not positive like when he called him a tool to be used, and he calls him a Betrayer for setting up Imperium Secundus. Such they had the best toys, deployed all the tactics from just about every legion, had special training so they didn't rely on techmarines/mars, and many of the original Terrans had psychic wards placed on them by Big E himself, making. After Roboute Guilliman was resurrected in the closing days of the 41st Millennium, Mortarion sensed his brother's rebirth. Bare with me because I am only about a third of the way into Dark Imperium so its entirely possible some of these issues will be addressed as the story progresses, but Guilliman appears to be doing the same stupid crap the Emperor did and the Guilliman himself did before he got put in stasis. "Guilliman. There was no promise. 2K 264K views 2 years ago Hey everyone! Wolf Lord Rho here!. Anybody who says anything other than "it could potentially go either way" is being silly. Guilliman seems to be adopting many of the mannerisms of Julius Caesar though. Some are positive like Greatest Accomplishment, Most Loyal Son, Last Remaining Hope. Hey everyone! Wolf Lord Rho here!Today we discuss the revelation of the Emperor's words to his son, the returned Roboute Guilliman. ’. He hates this fallen, dark Imperium, and wishes to restore it to the glory of the pre-Heresy Days. Administration. The seeming fact that Dorn held this position in Guilliman's stead until essentially the moment Guilliman arrived, at which point Dorn immediately abdicated and Guilliman took up the role, indicates to me that there was a pre-existing understanding of some sort that Guilliman would take the overall reigns in the Emperor's prolonged absence. His charisma, humility, and loyalty to the Emperor to the point of self-sacrifice has earned him a great deal of reverence, even in. That being said, Custodes and Guilliman are in good terms, Guilliman has 10 Custodes, 3 terminators and 5 wardens (Custode veterans) and the second highest ranking Csutode as part of his body guards. I understand that you can’t sell a story without emotion, but Guilliman wouldn’t act entirely dissatisfied and depressed. "That's a rare weapon indeed," Magnus said, "A useless and broken weapon. This is not just any loyal primarch, this is the Lion, and Guilliman has been in a similar situation before. A cheap tactic. ‘I find your familiarity refreshing. ‘His actions enrage you, and yet he eluded you,’ said Guilliman. Guilliman is very painfully aware that he can't simply pick up as 30k intended before everything got twisted, especially when it comes to worshiping the emperor as a god. Then, the way he coalesces different versions of himself from across the galaxy so that he can have a coherent enough mind and personality to speak with Guilliman - I didn't specifically imagine it this way but it made perfect sense. Guilliman was clad in a magnifcent new suit of armour, an ornate masterwork that had travelled all the way. So neutral. Emperor: Guilliman. He kinda goes back and forth on it, he's mad because he feels the Emperor looks at him as a tool only to be used to achieve his own ends. The Emperor did not love His sons. Why did the Emperor set up basically tyrannical government. He was no god when I knew Him, but now…’. ‘I know that, but I would no sooner bend my knee to him than to Horus. The Lion is the literal son of the Emperor who lead a legion in the great crusade who's victory tally was second only to Horus and the Luna Wolves. The Emperor spoke and did not speak. Titus Prayto held his master’s stare and nodded confirmation. Within the universe, Guilliman very well may be capable of showing them all a better way (notwithstanding that this "better way" is coming from a man who commits genocide on a Tuesday), which is exactly why out of universe it'll never happen. The Emperor was never a god, denied He was a god and has been wrongly elevated by men who see power and mistake it for divinity. 1. The Space Marines were to protect humanity and are expendable as such. There's a reason that famous painting of the Emperor confronting Horus on the Vengeful Spirit has three central figures, and the body of Sanguinius is one of them. Guilliman stared back, his expression hidden by the muzzle of his helmet. An Emperor who can still speak clearly and say something like "you will assume this title and do these tasks" is not an Emperor that Guilliman would renounce. The rest of 30k still feels pretty grim. ’ ‘Guilliman. ‘The Emperor protects,’ Iolanth said. He did not hear then at all. Option 2: After 10k years of being tortured by a glorified toilet seat, He's got no time to lose on being nice and shit and Guilliman thinking "He must've always. Yeah a lot of people want a broad brush to say Titus was totally against the codex and Leandros was 100% for it. The being he had thought of as a father could hide nothing from him. To Guilliman, the dire state of the Imperium was a horrifying surprise. Well, with less. Discord - Old Man's Patreon - -.